In the second of Olivia Rutazibwa’s four interviews appearing this week on the December 2016 Race after the Postracial conference, the speaker is Ghassan Hage. Mr Ghassan Hage is the Future Generation Professor of Anthropology and Social Theory at the University of Melbourne, Australia. In the monologue below he explores how the terminology used by the Austrialian government in her dealings with the refugee crisis links to our framing of ecological problems. Hage argues that ‘the classifications and the practices that constitute colonial racism and the practices that have generated the destruction of the natural environment are mutually self-reinforcing’. Find Professor Hage’s full monologue here.